Vintage Club News June 1993
The Bath Meeting- Saturday June 5th 1993Glorious sunny weather saw a
large gathering of the Vintage Club in the traditional haunt of the 4E
engineering servery. The local contingent were all in place at 12:30 waiting for
the imminent arrival of Ed, Gary and the food !! After an impatient 30 minutes
rumbling stomachs were silenced when the scoff from Sainsburys deli. appeared to
wild cheering !!
The participants were (in no particular order): Ed Kay, Eleanor Cogill, Paul
Stallard, Nicky Thorne, Gary Hunt, Guy Nason, Nicholas Stevens, Liz Wall,
Philippa Coates, Jonathan Foweraker, Niel Markwick, Silke Knippschild, Graham
Heath, Andy Howard, Karen Roberts, Stan Lovell, Chris Meads, Davie Macallan, Vic
Cockcroft, Stuart Ruffle, Katie Cotterell, Mark Masento, Mike and Clare Brown
and Colin Dunling, and between us we managed to consume 23 bottles of Wine and
"Wine" (see below !!).
Brian Clough connections were few and far between as could be predicted !
We kicked off with a nice cool glass of fizz !
Stuart Ruffle. "it ain't Champagne" was one comment, "where's the
crackers" at first I thought this a complaint about the bouquet being none too
yeasty until it was pointed out that Ed had neglected to buy our beloved Jacobs
!!! Never mind we soldiered on. "Weighty but slightly sweet" was the most
flattering comment we recorded for:
Moet et Chandon Champagne Brut Imperial N.V. £17.99
and another nail in the Champenois coffin ?
Mark Masento I "juicy" "lychees and grapefruit" "English?" "sweet grapey
fruit" Clare Brown correctly identified Bulgaria.
Country Wine Muscat/Ugni Blanc from Slaviantzi, N.V.
Ed Kay and Gary Hunt I looked cloudy and the consensus was it was a
suspension not a precipitate !! This discussion gratefully distracted us from
the wine which was "oxidized" and "maderized", tasted "bitter" and "oaky"
"Cloudy Bay" was one witty guess everyone else threw it away into the nearest
Moldova Aligote 1988 £4.00
Stan Lovell and Chris Edmead I "aesthetically pleasing" Mike Brown
described the smell as "gooseberries nestling in warm cleavage" ! "Honey"
"Gooseberry" and "tropical fruit" flavours abounded . Guesses ranged from
Sauvignon blanc from Sancerre to the New World but Stuart Ruffle correctly
identified its provenance.
Bordeaux Sauvignon AC Ch. Tour de Mirambeau 1992 £5.29
Philippa Coates and Liz Wall "honey" "mead" "petrol" "rapeseed" and "What
a snoz"! were the enthusiastic descriptions of the bouquet; similar plaudits
were heaped on the flavour although some were concerned by a slightly oxidized
taint. New World Chardonnay was a popular guess however several people got it
France Chablis Grand Cru 1988 Blanchotte Labourne £21:45
Colin Dunling people thought it pleasantly citrussy but young. "Loose
knit" was proposed and the retort was "More of a crochet really"!!. Most people
got Chardonnay and France.
France Chardonnay Vin de Pays d'Oc 1991 Chais Baumaire £4:49
Andy Howard "Honeysuckle, meths and sulphur with a hint of cardboard"
were the predominant smell on a wine that tasted "appley and oxidized" most
people binned it but Mark Masento waxed lyrical on our side of the room about
how white Rhone should taste.
France Crozes Hermitage Blanc 1989 Pascal £6
Mike and Clare Brown I the classy nose was described as "nutty" " lemons"
and "yeast" the taste was a balance of "citrus fruit acidity and oily
butteriness" with a rich butterscotch tasting finish. A lot of people thought
this was good burgundian chardonnay and were most impressed to find it was:
USA California Central Coast Wild Horse Chardonnay 1991 £7
days favourite wine.
Gary Hunt and Ed Kay II "Closed" "Dusty Oaky" smells were reported. The
taste was mostly the clean acidity of "apples and gooseberries" balanced with
oak and a curious finish of "confectioners cigarettes", guesses ranged from
Chardonnay to White Bordeaux: we were all shocked to find out it was:
England Tenterden Special Reserve 1989 (Oak Aged Madeleine Angevine)
Paul Stallard and Nicky Thorne The "rich, oaky, lemony" nose was followed
by an "oaky cardboard" taste balanced with "grapey acidity", everyone got
Chardonnay AGAIN! but Ed correctly spotted Pouilly-Fuisse.
France, Burgundy Pouilly-Fuisse Ch. Fuisse 1990 £17
Graham Heath "Oaky Cabbage, bananas, lemons and rich yeasty" smells
abounded, the taste was equally enthusiastically greeted "ripe melons" with a
nice "peppery finish" YET another Chardonnay people cried, but not any old
France, Burgundy, Meursault-Genevrieres, 1987 Chansson Pere et fils
Guy Nason "a pleasant summer colour" "smells of green leaf tea" "summer
pudding" "dental mouthwash" !! The descriptions of the taste varied from stalky,
green, tannic to blackcurrant, broccoli and brassicas. Guesses ranged from
Loire, Cabernet Sauvignon to those who correctly spotted Pinot Noir.
France, Burgundy, Cotes de Beaune, Monthelie A.C. 1990 Jaffelin £10
Karen Roberts Smells of banana and chocolate put people in mind of Cru
Beaujolais, but the peppery, raspberry jam fruit persuaded some that it wasn't
but they failed to spot:
France Cotes du Rhone, Ch. St. Esteve d'Uchaux (Syrah/Grenache) 1991
Marc Masento II This older looking wine was described as smelling of
"mouldy vegetables" and "bitter cherry stones". The taste was rich, mature and
still fruity. Many guesses "70's Claret" "80's Rioja" the closest was "76 Rioja"
the consensus was "It's one of those that tastes of Claret that isn't !"
Spain, Rioja Gran Reserva, Berberana 1978 £16
Katie Cotterell "liquorice" "pepper" with "plummy fruit" smells, tastes
ranged from "soft" "peppery" "good fruit". Most thought it was N. Rhone or
Chateauneuf du Pape" Colin Dunling correctly guessed Barolo.
Italy Piedmont Barolo Il Podore di ... 1986 (Nebbiolo) £9
Ed Kay and Gary Hunt III "jammy" "blackcurrant" smells leaped forth
followed by "juicy" "blackcurrants" "full of bigness" ! with a "bitter finish";
people found it stained their glass !!! Nearly everyone thought it was Italian.
Italy Piedmont Barbera d'Alba 1987 Vignarey Gaja £20
(New oak in
Davie Macallan this deep dark and mysterious looking wine smelled of
sweet jammy fruit particulary "damsons". The taste described as "luscious"
"packed with fruit" "buxom" ! Guesses were wide ranging the most flattering was
Argentina, Mendoza, Trapiche Cabernet Sauvignon, 1986 £4.29
Eleanor Cogill More "jammy fruit" here on the nose as well as "parsnips"
"liquorice" and "banana skins"!. The taste was of "raspberries and cherry
stones". "Italian" they all cries some went further and correctly singled out
Italy Piedmont Barolo 1989 Cantina Ascheri Giacomo £7.50
Chris Edmead and Stan Lovell II The smells of "green peppers and salami"
were proposed here and the taste described as "lovely, rich and peppery"
Everyone enjoyed this even though the taste buds were beginning to get a little
France Cotes du Rhone St. Joseph 1989 Delas, Cuvee Fr. du Tournon £8
Nick Stevens This older looking offering was opulent and described as
smelling of "horse manure" "cabbage" and "tarry toffee". The taste was a
balanced mature mixture of "plummy fruit" and "rich soft tannin", lots of people
guessed Claret some even put it on the East side of the Gironde.
France Bordeaux Pomerol Ch Certan-Marzelle (2nd wine of Ch.
Certan-Giraud) 1985 £24
Vic Cockcroft I "Farmyards" "silage" and "blackcurrant" were the
contributions for the nose, the taste was mature "peppery, blackcurrants with
soft tannins and more fruits". The consensus was Claret from the Haut Medoc
10-15 years old, pretty close !
France Bordeaux Margaux Ch. Lascombes 2me Cru Classe 1983 £18
Mike and Clare Brown II "Sweet fizz" "apples and oranges" The taste was
much of the same fruity and gluggable "apricots and nectarines" (very refreshing
at this stage of the proceedings !) Everyone (left who cared by now) guessed
Moscato and they were right.
Italy Piedmont Moscato d'Asti 1991 Vigna Senza None (I think)
(The vineyard with no name, more appropriate for Clint Eastwood
than Brian Clough !)
FINALLY Vic Cockcroft II The garish colour gave away the fact it couldn't
be made from grapes! It smelled of "raspberry" "Benyllin" and "Tixy-Lix" It
tasted similar ! People thought it a cure-all or diluted cough mixture.
Finland Mesimana berry (Rubus articus) liquor
The important and
saving grace of this liquid was the 21º of alcohol !
SummaryThe tasting was excellent even if their appeared to be a glut of
Chardonnays in the middle. The shocking thing by V.C. standards was the amount
people spent this year which was well appreciated by everyones taste buds, the
22 bottles of wine cost about £245 averaging at about £11 per bottle !
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