From: Derek HoltDate: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:05:51 +0100 Subject: Automorphism of a Frattini extension Hallo pubbers! Can anyone help me with the following technical question about group extensions? Let 1 -> M -> G -> Q -> 1 be a group extension, with M elementary abelian and M contained in Frattini(G), G finite. Does an automorphism of G fixing M that induces the indentity on Q necessarily restrict to the identity on M? I have been assuming that the answer is yes, but I have suddenly had doubts! There is an old result of Gaschuetz that, for a given Q and prime p there is a unique maximal extension of this kind for which M is an elementary abelian p-group and M is contained in the Frattini subgroup of G (which means that the extension is completely non-split), of which all other such extensions are quotients. Derek Holt. ------ and then soon after--- Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:54:06 -0400 (EDT) From: mpettet@uoft02.utoledo.edu Subject: Re: Automorphism of a Frattini extension The answer is certainly "yes" if the automorphism is of order coprime to the order of G but, unless I have misunderstood the question, it can't be true in general. Take G to be a finite p-group whose Frattini subgroup M is elementary abelian but not central and take the automorphism to be the inner automorphism induced by any element which doesn't centralize the Frattini subgroup. If p is at least 3, I think Z_p wreath Z_p will do for G. Am I missing something? Martin Pettet ----- and then Derek clarified his question----- Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 06:24:52 +0100 Sorry I must have been in the pub too long. Martin Pettet and others have quickly pointed out that the answer is certainly no. I would like to make the additional assumption that G acts irreducibly on the module M, or better, that M is a direct sum of irreducible G-modules. Derek Holt.