From: Derek Holt Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 95 10:00:42 BST Several years ago now, Heineken asked whether the group < x, y, z | z=[x,[x,y]], x=[y,[y,z]], y=[z,[z,x]] > is finite or infinite. It was quickly discovered using the low index subgroup and p-quotient algorithms, that it had a large finite perfect factor group of structure 2^24.A5, but apart from that no progress was made. A day or two ago Joachim Neubueser suggested that I try the Warwick Automatic group programs on this example (which, for some reason, I appear never to have done before), and to my surprise, they worked reasonably quickly (the computation took about 15 minutes). The conclusion is that the group is automatic with word-acceptor having 1106 states, and multipliers 2428 states. This enables you to solve the word problem in the group, by reducing words to their (shortlex) normal forms. From the word-acceptor, it can be seen immediately that the group is infinite - in fact, the generators have infinite order. Of course, it provides no further information on the the finite quotients, so it is still unknown whether 2^24.A5 is the largest finite quotient group. Derek Holt.